The EcoSend Podcast

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[00:00:00] Chris W: Welcome to the EcoSend podcast. Be inspired, educated, and entertained by the world's most ambitious leaders putting climate at the top of their agenda.

[00:00:16] James Gill: Hi there, welcome to another episode of the EcoSend podcast. It's great to be back. I'm your host, James, and I am joined by a very special guest today.

[00:00:26] I'm joined by Carlos Terol now, who is Carlos, I hear you ask? Well, maybe many of you already know Carlos. Carlos is the founder of Good Ripple, which is a platform on a mission to connect 300 million changemakers by 2030. Terolthey're already three and a half thousand members strong from over 100 countries, focusing on three key things, connecting, collaborating, and growing.

[00:00:53] Carlos has been Incredibly influential in in my world. I think he's doing just some incredible work So it's such an honor to have you on the show today carlos Terolhow are you doing today?

[00:01:05] Carlos Terol: Hi james, thank you so much for the kind words and thank you so much for having me here It's a real honor and i'm doing wonderful today really excited about this chat together to be honest

[00:01:16] James Gill: Awesome, awesome.

[00:01:17] And I, I must say before we did the hit the recording on this show, I had to comment on Carlos's background because he's, he's surrounded by sunshine at the moment. I believe he's got seaside near him. Carlos, tell us where you are in the world today.

[00:01:31] Carlos Terol: Yes, I'm in Las Palmas, the Gran Canaria in Spain, a small island in the middle of the ocean.

[00:01:37] And this is where I'm from originally. I'm visiting parents and family here. I'm very lucky because yeah, my mom lives in an 11th floor and I've got really nice views over here of the of the sea And the sunshine out there. So yeah, super amazing day

[00:01:53] James Gill: Making us all very very jealous carlos Sorry It's okay in london, it's not too bad Terolso carlos tell us a little bit more about yourself.

[00:02:05] Terolwho are we speaking to? Who is carlos for those who don't know?

[00:02:10] Carlos Terol: Yeah, so I think I would say that I'm I'm on a changemaker journey I'm I'm someone who started a changemaker journey about ten years ago and you know before I was a very different person and most people might not believe it, but I used to, you know, not be into sustainability at all, like quite the opposite.

[00:02:30] And I used to justTerol have these goals in life of, Oh, I want to have expensive cars. I want to have a big house. And, you know, when I was like 18, I, my goals in life would be. At 25, I want a BMW at 30, I want a Ferrari at 40, I want a Lamborghini. And, and that, those were my goals. Right? So luckily I've, I've changed a lot

[00:02:56] I am, I like to believe for the better.

[00:02:59] James Gill: Terolou want, you want an Aston Martin instead, right? ?

[00:03:02] Carlos Terol: Exactly. Yes. An electric one. Funny that I don't even have a car now. There we go. I don't even like, I don't even enjoy driving anymore, which is quite crazy.

[00:03:15] James Gill: Some change, some change.

[00:03:17] Carlos Terol: Yeah. Terolso yeah, so that, that was me when I was studying at uni.

[00:03:23] Terolbut I was really lucky because I have some friends from Western Sahara, which isTerol the country just opposite in Africa in front of the Canary Islands. And when I finished my degree here, I studied civil engineering. That's my background. And when I finished the degree, my friend told me, Hey, why don't you come here to Western Sahara?

[00:03:41] And we actually set up a little business there. I don't often talk about this because it just lasted for like two months and then it kind of crashed. Terolbut I was like, okay, I'll go there. And the surprising thing is that it's just a 30 minute flight. From Las Palmas to Western Sahara to Layun, the capital there.

[00:04:01] So I got on this plane that literally, it goes up and down, it doesn't stay up. So, it went up and down. When I landed there, I saw a totally different reality. People were living in poverty with Pollution everywhere. And most importantly for me, it was lack of opportunities. And that made me realize that up until that point, you know, I was thinking that everything I had in life, it was because I had put the effort in, I had studied hard, etc.

[00:04:32] And then I realized that before all of those things, there was something more important is that I was given the opportunity. to do all of that. And I realized the people there didn't have those opportunities. And that just blew my mind. I was like, we're limiting the human potential so much by deciding who gets the opportunities depending on where you're born.

[00:04:55] Or when you're born and that just changed my mindset completely. I thought I have to do something to help more people in the world. And that's where I started my change maker journey thing. Okay, then I just didn't have a clue of what I would do or how could I, how could I help more people? But I said, okay, I'm going to spend my life trying to figure out how can I help more people out and just try my best along the way to, to help them.

[00:05:22] So everything for me started more about the social justiceTerol global development side of things. And then from there, I started learning more about sustainability, climate change, et cetera. I sort of started growing what I callTerol our bubble of care, my bubble of care. So I started caring about more things, people, planet, et cetera.

[00:05:45] And another time, yeah, I decided to start doing more of that. I think I'm still on that journey of figuring out how can I maximize my positive impact in the world? How can I help more people help the planet? Two years ago, I sat down to kind of reflect about if I could only do one thing. For the rest of my life, what would that be?

[00:06:07] And I came to the realization that it would be good ripple this platform to connect change makers And that's what sort of pushed me to start good ripple two years ago. And here we are now 3500 members And really, really blown away by how positively it's been received because I thought I'll start this thing and I'm sure that after a few months it'll be just me and my girlfriend and maybe a couple of friends just to be nice.

[00:06:33] And suddenly we had all these people joining and connecting and collaborating and saying, Hey, We really needed this. So to me, that's been like super, super positive and super inspiring to keep going till today. That's,

[00:06:47] James Gill: yeah, no, that's incredible. What a, what a journey. AndTerol so fascinating to hear, you know, I speak to quite a few people on this podcast andTerol often it takes sort of, Some sort of event to happen or some sort of exposure to something very different in their lives that that is that cause that Seeds that grows until they have to do something about it.

[00:07:12] And it's it's incredible. Yeah your travels and your exploration of the world and Seeing maybe parts that we, that many people maybe have never been to was such a, had such a profound impact on, on the kind of the trajectory for you, Carlos, as some, it's really fascinating to hear. Teroland, and I, I'm, I'm curious then, you talk about changemakers, you talk about bringing changemakers together.

[00:07:44] What's a changemaker? Tell us, tell us what you see as a changemaker andTerol yeah, yeah, what, what does it take to become one?

[00:07:54] Carlos Terol: Yeah, that's a really good question, James. I think that's, for us, is the one million dollar question because I think for us Changemaker is anyone who is trying to make the world a better place, whether it's sustainability, climate change, biodiversity, social justice, well being, mental healthTerol diversity and inclusion, anything that improves the world in any way.

[00:08:19] So it's a very broad definition, as you can tell. So it includes a lot of people in thatTerol we actually have a little bit of a hard time to be able to have a word that brings all of those people together. So far, we're using change makers because we feel it's, it's, it's the most appropriate one we've found so far, but I would love to hear if you have any better suggestions, because the truth is that.

[00:08:43] Not everyone who's making the world a better place identifies themselves as a changemaker. Some people think, oh, changemaker isTerol an employee within an organization that's driving change internally. Other people think changemaker, it's a policymaker. Those are the ones making change. Terolso, you know, there's, there's very different definitions.

[00:09:05] Some people think changemakers are just activists who are going to protest and demonstrations. Thanks. And for us, Changemaker, it's really the most inclusive word we've found, but it's still, it's not perfect. Terolbecause it doesn't really bring everyone together. Maybe we could use citizen, active citizen as a bit of a more inclusive one, but again, some people might not think of citizen as something active in terms of, you know, actively making the world a better place.

[00:09:33] Terolso it's a tricky one, but so far we're, we're going with that wordTerol because the best one we've found so far.

[00:09:41] James Gill: Yeah, it's, it's easy to getTerol spend allTerol all year figuring out the right word andTerol not making any actual change, isn't it? But it's, it's, that is an interesting dilemma, isn't it? To try and bring together what must be quite a disparate group of people, With very different traits, different backgrounds, different, you know, geographies, all sorts.

[00:10:05] To bring them together under one, one name or one, one consistent theme. It must be a difficult, a difficult thing, but I, I, I mean, change maker inherently to me means people want to change things for the better, which is usually a good idea. TerolbutTerol yeah, I, I, I mean, I, I'm, I'm all behind the change maker word right now, Carlos.

[00:10:28] That sounds great to me.

[00:10:30] Carlos Terol: That's good to hear James, but yeah, I think we're kind of going against old. Marketing advice, because we're not mishing down. We're not, we're keeping it really broad and we're doing this on purpose. And although it makes our life a lot more difficult when it comes to, obviously we want to run an event, a specific event, like it's not going to please everyone, right?

[00:10:52] Because we have so manyTerol different people in there, but that's the main reason why we were born as a, as a community, as a platform, and it's because we, we're lacking this overarching. Terolspace safe space where change makers can come together and I've seen this in my life and I've seen it in many other lives.

[00:11:10] Terolis that I started caring about poverty. That was kind of my hook into change making, but then I started caring about wellbeing, mental healthTerol biodiversity, climate change, you name it. So I started growing my bubble of care and caring about more things. That doesn't mean that I do for, you know, I take action for every single one of them because my energy, my time is limited, but at least I can care about them.

[00:11:38] I can feel responsible for them. And, you know, that means that I could do whatever I can for them. Terolso we are all about expanding that bubble of care for changemakers and I would believe that by bringing people together. That are not necessarily in the same silo, in the same echo chamber, like getting them out of that.

[00:11:58] It can also help them grow and maximize their impact, grow their impact. So that's what we're trying to do. Terolsort of bridging that gap between different change makers.

[00:12:09] James Gill: Yeah, no, absolutely. I think that's such a, such a greatTerol Sort of summary though of, of, I think that the journey, a lot of people go on where they, they often, you know, going back to your earlier points, like you see something in the world and you want to change it and you start learning more about it, but you know, I think we've found as a team at Ecoset, like the, the focus on climate has then.

[00:12:35] naturally expanded out to all of these related topics that clearly need change. And you realize very quickly that everything in the world is messy and chaotic and connected. And, you know, you want to try and change things for the better. Like you can't do certain things to impact climate without also caring about many, many other connected kind of fields.

[00:12:59] I think it's another thing where I've seen certainly in the world of business whereTerol companies kind of want to put metrics to everything and they, they, they look at climate as being carbon emissions and carbon emissions is the thing you measure. And that's the thing you report on. That's the thing you change.

[00:13:18] But in reality, like when you look at what you're trying to impact, climate is so much more than that. There's a lot of things that are very, very hard to measure and that relate to all these other things. I guess. Sort of highlight that because kind of maybe takes us onto another topic. I know you were keen to talk about Carlos, which is entrepreneurship and making impact and impact.

[00:13:39] Entrepreneurship is like the phrase, I guess we sort of use these days. Like Tell me more about this. Like, how does that overlap with change makers? I assume it's very entrepreneurial community, but yeah, it'd be good to hear your thoughts on.

[00:13:53] Carlos Terol: Yeah, definitely. And I'm so happy, James, that you've mentioned about that metric and, and our obsession with measuring, because I'm such a big advocate for that as well.

[00:14:04] Terolyou know, we, we're seeing this movement in, in the whole of society that we are only caring these days about what we can measure and, you know, We're obsessed with data, which to some degree, it's fine, right? We need data. We need to know the numbers, what's going on, but we have such an obsession with data that we're forgetting that some of the most important things are just not measurable, right?

[00:14:27] It's likeTerol just to mention, like with the carbon footprint, right? Everybody's focusing just on the carbon footprint because that's very easy to measure. But how about. You might be familiar with the concept of the carbon handprint or the carbon shadow, which is more about your wider impact. How about the people you are influencing?

[00:14:44] How about the people you are helping educate? You are mobilizing, you know, all of that thing. It's very difficult to measure the impact. You can measure how many people you influence to some degree, but what's the real impact of that? What that person went on to do, thanks to that inspiration, maybe, right?

[00:15:04] That's just impossible to measure, but the impact is there. And I think it's super important to be mindful and, and trying to find a balance between the two, I think the measurable and the non measurable. So I just wanted to mention that because I'm so, so passionate about that.

[00:15:20] James Gill: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's such a good point.

[00:15:24] I, I'm actuallyTerol curious, especially for many listeners, Carlos, the, the, the You mentioned two terms there that may be new to people, the carbon handprint and the carbon shadow. Like maybe, just in a few words, can you summarize those?

[00:15:39] Carlos Terol: Yeah. Terolso I think the carbon footprint, we're all kind of familiar. So it's more about measuring what's the carbon impact ofTerol your life.

[00:15:48] So whether it's transport, foodTerol your housing, et cetera. So all of that has a carbon footprint. So it's kind of easy. You can go online, type in carbon calculator and you can find your carbon footprint, right? But that focuses only on those things that emit carbon. And as you said, that's just part of the equation, right?

[00:16:07] And we need to look at climate change more holistically as well. There's other things that I do that impact climate change. And if I can inspire 10 people to maybe change slightly their habits or, you know, eat more healthy or less meat or whatever, just to put an example, that impact is there. But it's not accounted anywhere to me, right?

[00:16:31] And because that is not accounted, then we kind of ignore it. And it's important to realize that we can make a positive impact in so many other ways other than just reducing our carbon footprint. And that would be the carbon shadow or the carbon handprint, which is the wider impact we can create. Also an important element there is our finances.

[00:16:54] And that's something that's not included in our carbon footprint. But if we change our bank, our savings, our investments, our pension, all of those things also have a bigTerol bigTerol impact on climate. Teroland they are not included in theTerol carbon footprint traditionally. So it's all of those things outside of the carbon footprint that we can do to have a positive impact, whether it'sTerol helping educating others, whether it's joining movements, right?

[00:17:21] If you join a movement, you're growing that movement. Pressure on the system, which is going to help change things. But that doesn't go anywhere in any metric in the caramel footprint, but you're part of that movement, right? I think, think aboutTerol Greta Thunberg, for example, when she started the movement and, and the strikes on schools, that's not accounted that the millions of people she's inspired is not accounted in her carbon footprint, but she's had such a huge positive impact for climate change that it's part of her carbon handprint or her carbon shadow.

[00:17:54] Sure, and it's important that we realize about those because they're very valuable as well.

[00:17:59] James Gill: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely. That's such a great summary. Thank you, Carlos. That's, that's really, really fascinating to hear that. Terolamazing. I, yeah, so

[00:18:10] Carlos Terol: maybe, oh, sorry, go on. Yeah.

[00:18:12] James Gill: Yeah.

[00:18:12] Carlos Terol: Well,

[00:18:12] James Gill: yeah. Impact. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I just went on

[00:18:16] Carlos Terol: a tangent.

[00:18:17] James Gill: Yeah, no, I took you right off track. So yeah, impact entrepreneurship and yeah. Teroltell us more about this. People may be listening that are thinking about starting businesses or already running a businessTerol maybe consider themselves quite entrepreneurial, but are they? Impact entrepreneurs?

[00:18:35] Carlos Terol: Yeah. Terolso I love the term of impact entrepreneurship because I think there's a lot of talk about entrepreneurship and how to sell more, how to make money, etc.

[00:18:46] And I think we already have enough entrepreneurs in the world. We need really more impact entrepreneurs who are people who, yeah, you might still want the money or the fame or whatever that is. But also align that with the purpose align that with having an impact and I do believe that we could create a Many more impact entrepreneurs.

[00:19:07] We could definitely have a better world a lot faster. And it's funny because in our community, a lot of people are into that space. Terolwe don't target them particularly, but they seem to beTerol identify as change makers quite a lot. So they tend to come to the community. Teroland it's interesting because I think a lot of people also want to create a Terolthat impact business and there, there's lots of people in the community who might have just a normal job, nothing to do with impact.

[00:19:39] And they're all thinking, how can I create an impact business and make that career switch? So there's a lot of demand for that. And when we run events about, Hey, how to set up your impact startup, or how to go solo in the impact space as a solo business owner, those tend to be the ones that are more popular.

[00:19:59] So it seems that out there, lots of people want to create these. And for me, it's, it's really amazing because I think one of the issues right now with climate change, biodiversity crisis, et cetera, is that we have quite a few businesses that got too big. I, unfortunately. That comes with lots of challenges, right?

[00:20:21] With that sort of scale, it's very difficult for them to actually get climate change and biodiversity right, because things just go out of control, right, at that scale. And if we can create a More smaller businesses. So empower lots of people to become entrepreneurs and, you know, go back to the small business type society.

[00:20:44] I think that can sort of big part of the issue because a lot more easy to sort of tackle these issues when you are small business, you have power over your carbon footprint, you have power over your suppliers, et cetera, et cetera. But when you are too big, it's just very difficult, right? Teroland I think empowering people to go out there and take that step, take that leap into entrepreneurship and impact entrepreneurship, especially it's really powerful.

[00:21:12] So we want to do a lot more of that and good report. We want to help impact entrepreneurs to get started, to move to the next level, et cetera. And, and yeah, I think, For me, it's really inspiring to see so many people with great ideas. I have lots of calls with people that are, yeah, I want to start building this.

[00:21:29] And you know, when you hear the ideas and you see how many ideas are out there and people who are willing to take them on, it's, it's really inspiring, honestly. And a lot of those people just need that little push that little, you know, someone who's there to give them support and they go on and do it on their own.

[00:21:49] So yeah, it's amazing.

[00:21:51] James Gill: That's such a, an uplifting and inspiring outlook on, on entrepreneurship in particular, Carlos. Like to, to see how much entrepreneurial energy and, and spirit is out there and to channel that, harness that and push it towards positive change in the world is, is truly a wonderful thing.

[00:22:13] AndTerol I know. I feel tremendously optimistic about our ability to tackle many of the world's problems with some very entrepreneurial and creative minds. SoTerol you know, it's the only way we're going to get through this. We're not going to get through it by doing the things that we've done in the past.

[00:22:30] SoTerol yeah, I think it's just such a, you know, you can look at the world we're in and be quite, quite frustrated at times, I think. But like, I think it fills me with so much hope when you see. What people are trying to do and the kind of businesses people are trying to build and Terolyeah It's it's a frustrating time at times But like also a very very exciting and inspiring time and I think out of big challenges come Great great businesses, too.

[00:22:59] I truly believe that

[00:23:02] Carlos Terol: Absolutely. Yeah, and I think the impact entrepreneurship world is also quite key in terms of building resiliency because you know if you only have A couple of very big companies that have most of the jobs and employment and control everything. That's not resilient, right? If something happens to them, then there's a big, big issue.

[00:23:20] Whether if you have a more diversified network of businesses and entrepreneurs that work together, collaborate, then it's a lot more resilient, right? Because you don't no longer depend on just a few key players, but it's a network. It's a. Collaborative network. And if one of them fall, there's many others that can help.

[00:23:41] And also it won't impact the system as much. So we can carry on. So I think it's, it's an important part of how do we build resiliency going on, especially with, you know, what's coming with climate change, et cetera. I think we do need this sort of resiliency where people don't just depend, you know, an entire population or.

[00:23:58] CD just depends on a couple of employers, but actually they're all interdependent and have their ownTerol methods. Yeah. So I think it's important.

[00:24:08] James Gill: Yeah, absolutely. ITerol I know that the time is flying by Carlos and I really want to make sure we cover some of your other topics. I, I, and, and touch on a few more things, but content creation and personal branding, this is clearly being a very crucial thing for you.

[00:24:28] And, and, you know, I, I, whenever I'm on LinkedIn, as soon as I load it up, I see Carlos thatTerol showing some words of wisdom, some inspiration. Teroltell us more about, about why you're doing that and the importance of that and what you think others can do to follow in your footsteps.

[00:24:46] Carlos Terol: Yes. Terolso I think for me, personal branding, it's been like one of the best decisions in my life.

[00:24:53] I would totally recommend it to anyone. I know it's scary at the beginning, putting yourself out there and, and even not knowing what am I going to write about, what I'm going to share about. Are people going to care? We all have those doubts. Terolbut it's definitely worth. TryingTerol it has changed completely in my life in many waysTerol all the opportunities by the fact that I'm talking to you right now, right?

[00:25:15] If I hadn't started this journey with Personal Brand, I wouldn't be here. We wouldn't know each other. TerolI just would have missed so many opportunities. Terolso yeah, tough to recommend. Getting started on this journey for, for peopleTerol for me, it was really about, so two years ago, when I mentioned, I sat down to see what can I do for the rest of my life?

[00:25:35] Okay. It's good. Ripple now is, is I want to create a platform to connect change makers. Fine. So how do I find those change makers? Right. Cause yeah, I can go on, put a website, whatever, but how do I bring the change makers in? Terolso for me, I had been using LinkedIn as.TerolUm, sort ofTerol consuming content there for a couple of years.

[00:25:57] I think from all the social media, for me, it's, it's the one that I relate the most because I think it's a bit more, there's less noise in a way. Terolit's a bit more focused. It's a bit more respectful. Teroland you can learn a lot in a, in a very focused way, I think. Terolso I thought, okay, I love writing. And I kind of like LinkedIn as a platform compared to other social media, I'm not, I'm not really on any other social media.

[00:26:24] I probably will eventually. Terolbut for now, I, I just stick to LinkedIn. And I thought, well, what if. I start writing, sharing my thoughts or whatever to see if people resonate with that because I love writing anyway, so I'm going to enjoy it for sure. Whether somebody sees it or not, that's kind of secondary.

[00:26:45] Terolso I thought I'll start doing that and see how that goes. And if it works, it can help to bring change makers and see whether they like this idea of theTerol good ripple platform. So in November, 2022, that's when I started posting on LinkedIn. TerolI didn't know initially what I was going to write about.

[00:27:04] I felt, well, I'll write about the sustainable development goals cause I'm really passionate about them. And funny enough, I've been kind of. I've mentioned them a couple of times, but not so much now. And I think when you start, you may have an idea and then you start pivoting, you start getting feedback and adjusting however you feel about different things, different topics.

[00:27:24] So, you know, you don't have to have a super clear idea of what you're going to do. Teroljust get started, see how it goes and, and just iterate with how you feel about it and also how other people are reacting to it. But I think the most important part is you have to genuinely enjoy it. And you know, I think some people start just with a goal in mind of, Oh, I'm going to use these to get leads or whatever.

[00:27:49] And that's the only, only goal. And I think if you don't come to it. With the, with the sense of, I want to enjoy this process. Terolit's going to be very difficult to make it sustainable and successful in the longterm. So I think that that's something key that I would suggest. Like if you don't like it, maybe learn how to like it.

[00:28:11] That's something else, right? Terolbut if you're just doing it for another purpose, I think it might not work that well. Terolso I think it's gotta be that, that genuine enjoyment of the, of the process.

[00:28:23] James Gill: There's some really wonderfulTerol advice there, Carlos. I, I, a lot of that really resonates for me and I, I thinkTerol I think there's a lot to be said in particular for writing, and I, I know it can be really difficult.

[00:28:36] I've struggled with this myself, like getting into the headspace to write something, and especially when you've gone a long time, maybe without writing something. I, I often find that when you just sort of, like, tell yourself, okay, I'm going to put some time aside, and you. You just start. You, you, I, I find writing to be this incredible way to kind of clarify one's own thoughts.

[00:28:58] And, and I find, especially when you share publicly, like you're doing on LinkedIn. Terolyou know, whether you're doing that by LinkedIn, by email, by any of the other channels that you can share your written work on, like, you get that feedback, you know, maybe you get the feedback that no one cares. Maybe you get the feedback that people really care and think you're wrong.

[00:29:19] But it all helps feed into like developing one's own understanding of topics. And I just think it's such an incredible thing. And yeah, what really, really inspiring toTerol to hear your, your thoughts on that. All right. All that's it. Thank you.

[00:29:34] Carlos Terol: And I think also for me, it has helped me a lot to improve as a person because suddenly you have all of these accountability buddies out there, right?

[00:29:44] And because you're sharing it publicly and it helps you grow faster, I think, because, you know, the, the amount of improvements that I've done over the last two years, I think a lot more than the previous 10 years. And it's because I'm putting out there. I'm learning more about the topic. I'm learning more from other people.

[00:30:03] And suddenly I want to be better, right? I want to be better. I want to improve more every day because I try to be an inspiration for others. I try to be a role model. And I say, well, this thing, I can actually improve it. And now there's all these people that I can inspire if I change it. So why not? So, you know, there's, there's a lot of sort of a feedback loop that you get from posting and sharing with other people that that's really enriching your own life and your own experience as well.

[00:30:34] James Gill: Absolutely. Thank you, Carlos. I think you've already inspired me tremendously. I want to go and write something now, right? Right. As soon as after I've done this podcast, but just before we wrap up, I know you wanted to share. I mean, you've already shared a lot of wisdom. Carlos, but I know you, you had a few pieces of advice, maybe you, you wanted to share andTerol and then, yeah, and then we can, can wrap up what's been a wonderful show.

[00:31:00] Carlos Terol: Yeah, definitely. TerolI think. One thing that I wanted to share isTerol in terms ofTerol I see a lot of people in our community are looking for jobs and they want to make a career switch into impact. I think that's challenging. A lot of people are really struggling with that. And obviously there's no magic formula around it, but something that I see a lot happening is that.

[00:31:25] People are sometimes trying to rush this process and rather than applying to say, three, five, ten jobs, really carefully, really well done, like, you know, reading the job description and preparing a CV that's tailored to that position and preparing the cover letter, reaching out to the person. Who is on LinkedInTerol actively looking for this role.

[00:31:50] I see people just go on and hit apply, apply, apply, apply. And unfortunately that strategy doesn't work very well. Terolbecause the person on the other side notices whether you've put some effortTerol how, how genuinely interested are you about that position? And I see a lot of people coming to me saying, hey, yeah, i've been applying to lots of jobs and I don't really get any response.

[00:32:12] You And suddenly with a couple of people, I worked together and I've given them a couple of tips on how to improve that. And it makes such a huge difference, such a huge difference. If you show the other person that you truly care, that you genuinely want that position, that you're passionate about, not just your skills, your skills are important, but you need to show the passion, especially in the impact space.

[00:32:33] If you show that passion, it can really. Take you forward a lot and, and something as simple as having a nicely designed CV, just go on Canva and type CV template and you get like really nice designs with a little bit of color. And that, you know, when you're scrolling through a hundred CVs and you see one with a nice branding, with a nice color without going too fancy, but just a little bit.

[00:32:57] It really stands out so it can help you really get that position. So, yeah, I'm sure we do have a lot of people in their community struggling to find jobs, wanting to make that career transition. So I know there's a lot of people out there. Terolso if you're listening and that's you. Try to put a bit more care in that process and focus more on quality rather than quantity.

[00:33:19] And you should see big differences. JustTerol and always, always send the cover letter. Even if it's not requested, send it. It makes a difference. It shows that you go in the extra mile. And you generally care about that position.

[00:33:32] James Gill: Amazing Carlos. Quality over quantity is definitelyTerol wise words of advice any day of the week.

[00:33:40] And I think Carlos, you might be too humble to share your, your own resource, but I believe you haveTerol you have a whole curation of job boards that, that people can have a, have a look at as well, which we'll make sure we link in the show notes as well. Right.

[00:33:56] Carlos Terol: Yeah, definitely. We've got a bit of a curation year of like 220 impactTerol job boards.

[00:34:02] And so for people who are struggling and don't know where to startTerol we have that on Notion, so you could just take the link, copy it to your own Notion, and then you can filter and sort and find the ones that are relevant to you and then use them to apply. And yeah, hopefully that can help Alvit in the process.

[00:34:21] James Gill: Wonderful, wonderful. That is, that is absolutely fantastic, Carlos. And I guess last but not least, if anyone wants to follow you, speak to you more, well, I believe you might be on LinkedIn, right?

[00:34:32] Carlos Terol: Yes, that's right. Yeah, that's the main, main place to find me, yes. Yeah,

[00:34:36] James Gill: we'll link, we'll link to the show notes and your website, goodripple.

[00:34:40] co. Is that right?

[00:34:41] Carlos Terol: That's right. Yeah. If anybody wants to check out the community, yeah, GoodRipple. co.

[00:34:46] James Gill: Amazing. Carlos, thank you so much today. It's been a pleasure speaking with you.

[00:34:53] Carlos Terol: Thank you, James, for having me here. It's really an honor. It's been really good.

[00:34:57] James Gill: Oh, too kind, Carlos. Too kind. Thank you so much.

[00:35:00] And thank youTerol if you're listening, watching. Terolhonestly, it's a pleasure doing this show. I love being here. I feel like I've got the best job in the world being able to speak to people like Carlos. So if you've enjoyed listening, watching today, please do let us know. Please do give us thumbs upTerol the five stars, whatever, whatever works.

[00:35:20] Teroland tell other people about this. Terolespecially if you know anyone who's currently sort of between jobs looking for their next moveTerol maybe this would be a great episode to, to share with them. SoTerol yeah, for following along and we will catch you next

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